Badr Hari as a Bedlamite
Neil Manich wrote an interesting, highly literate piece on Hari, drawing parallels from men like Vladimir Lenin, Caesar, and Alexander. While it certainly provides a window into Hari the fighter, the fandom present in Neil's article misses, in my opinion, the more appropriate context over Hari, the man and fighter. Dave Walsh even chimed in, offering a retort:
Badr Hari represents much more of an ideological state apparatus; he is pushed and pushed and pushed as the future, as the best and that he can do no wrong when he does nothing but wrong. Badr Hari in his perfect form is what K-1 and It's Showtime want, as he can clearly carry them into the future and be the superstar the kickboxing world needs, but the ideal Badr Hari doesn't exist. The real Badr Hari is in tight with the mafia, has worn shirts supporting Amsterdam drug dealers to the ring in K-1, he drives expensive cars, wears nice clothing and didn't have to earn most of what he got.
I'll get back to Neil's post in a bit, but I have to clarify that I've been asked by the man upstairs (Matt Roth) to pretend to be a kickboxing expert, and to inform the K-1 experts of what they're all more familiar with than I am. Along the way I learned something: Hari is damn fun to watch. You guys already knew that, but speaking as a neophyte, the task has proven to be a pleasure. I'm not some MMA fan who ignores the arts that shape the sport I love the most (I began as a boxing aficionado due to my dad, who was an amateur boxer), but K-1 is just something I never followed. Watching Hari fight, there's an intensity present in his behavior that can only be fostered by the few. Something innate. Something instinctual. Is it any wonder the same intensity that informs his behavior inside the ring, informs his behavior outside of it?
When I saw Hari's DQ loss to Remi Bonjansky at the K-1 WGP in 2008, I was shocked, as you might expect, but there are two moments that cut to the truth of who Badr Hari is. Yes, 4:48 is one part, but the other is the 10 seconds before the DQ where Bonjansky is launching lethal kicks to Hari's body, and Badr wades through the barrage to unleash a more ferocious one. The Hesdy Gerges fight was no different, with Hari absolutely pasting a very competent kickboxer, only to lose with a kick to Hesdy's face...while he was down of course. Given Hari's connections to the criminal world, Dave Walsh even went so far as to explain the behavior as 'worklike' in nature:
There are also whispers of some of Badr's loss to Gerges and his demeanor being part of a fix in the fight due to his connections and the incredible betting odds for the fight. While these are just rumors and cannot be confirmed, it can help to explain Badr Hari's actions in the ring as well as his stone cold demeanor after the fight, as well as make sense as to why he'd do something when it seemed like he was in complete control of both the fight and his emotions.
Hari's criminal past is well known. While assault might be expected for a kickboxer with a short fuse, it's charges like that of arson which often link Hari to a realm beyond the typical, and into an atmosphere more nefarious. Wearing shirts revealing himself to be a proponent of known, and quite infamous criminals in his homeland isn't exactly a subtle endorsement. I'm not interested in playing the role of "moral guardian" though. I don't condone any of Hari's actions. I condemn them, in fact. His actions require that condemnation. We're not talking about 'mere' misbehavior in the ring. We're talking about the actions of a certified delinquent. But I'm more interested in the relationship between the civilian, and the prizefighter, and how one compliments the other. If only Hari had some sort of moral switch...he could be a true great, right?
"If only"...it's the catchphrase for many troubled fighters; typically fighters who have the potential to be better than they are if only their heads were screwed on straight. ‘If only' Mike Tyson wasn't a maniac...‘if only' Anderson Silva wasn't so bizarre, we might have been saved from the Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites and Demian Maia fights. If only Badr Hari wasn't such a "Bad Boy", and so forth. These qualifiers always miss the point though. They neglect the truth that just as discipline can be an ingredient for achievement, so too, can recklessness. Or eccentricity. When Anderson Silva danced around at UFC 112, the same behavior that informed his antics in the Maia fight is the same behavior, I'd argue, that informed his knockout wins over Vitor Belfort, Tony Fryklund, or Carlos Newton: who but someone so fascinated by his own quirks would attempt reverse elbows, or look for a front kick as the knockout blow? Anderson Silva, by all accounts, is an architect of indulgence. That's his crime when a fight doesn't quite go his way (like against Maia), but that same behavior generates his accolades (like against Belfort). Silva's a destroyer, but it's a byproduct of his indulgence, and eccentricity: not as a man of one-track violence.
Mike Tyson, growing up a troubled youth, channeled his inner rage within the ring, but because that rage was something he took with him outside of it, how could he ever hope to truly contain it, regardless of location (although I think this perception is sometimes unfair insofar as Tyson was a real student of the game: under Cus D'Amato's tutelage he learned and was influenced by lots of black and white footage of old school boxers like Henry Armstrong, and Jack Dempsey)? Why are people shocked, when guys like Chris Leben, or Donald Cerrone, find themselves in trouble (a DUI in Leben's case, and a backstage fight in Cerrone's)? There's a yin-yang relationship when it comes to exciting, violent fighters.And so Badr Hari is no different. His fights involve the same kind of gambling that accompanies criminal behavior. His lack of a moral compass, that distinct lack of safety, is precisely what makes him such an affective fighter. If he wasn't compromising his prime with civil misconduct, and bad behavior last year, then it he would have done so next year, or the year after. Hari doesn't fight for an honest wage. He doesn't fight because of the discipline the martial arts have offered. And he certainly doesn't fight because he's on a metaphysical quest. He fights for survival. In a Darwinian sense, sure, but survival insofar as without K-1, he'd probably be something much worse. Instead he gets to settle for a catchphrase like "Bad Boy", and all the hallelujahs of the observers who just want to know what a phenomenal kickboxer looks like.
As interesting as Neil's post was, I think it's wholly inaccurate, and sets up Hari as a bit of a hero (even if that wasn't Neil's intention). Hari has less in common with Cesar, or Alexander...men of inexorable volition, and more in common with someone like Nicolae Ceausescu. The Romanian Communist dictator was a man of significant ambition, but his will shaped his triumphs as much as they molded his failures, and the scope of his vision only impacted a small part of the world that would ultimately turn on him. Unhappy with the birthrate of Romania in 1966, which was staggeringly low (4 abortions for every birth), he quickly declared abortion illegal, even going so far as to tax women who failed to conceive with the use of agents called the "Menstrual Police", as if life were a Mel Brooks film (birthrates did double, however, accomplishing exactly what he wanted). When he was overthrown with a bullet to the head in 1989, the culprits were members of the very generation he gave birth to. Hari is more Ceausescu than Caesar: a man with lofty goals, but his methods were too draconian to be considered revolutionary, so much so that even its youth could see through the bullshit (many of the protestors that triggered his eventual overthrow were teenagers). This is Hari's fate: not of a revolutionary, but of a bedlamite who just so happens to be a brilliant kickboxer.
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by Thats It For you! on May 14, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm often accused of covering up or glossing over Badr's flaws due to my fandom.
In fact, one of the people who commented on my Lenin piece called me a “nuthugger.” I realize that it seems that way, and I probably often do, but it’s more that I’ve come to terms with it. It’s his character flaws that make him such a compelling fighter to watch. I agree with you 100 percent about that. Some of the things that Badr have done are appalling. I can’t and won’t argue that fact. But some of the things that Hari have done are incredible as well.
And that’s where I differ from Walsh and yourself. It’s not that I disagree. You two are both looking at it as a career characterization and in that way you have to consider the lows in Badr’s life. But I wasn’t looking at it like that. In my piece I was simply trying to catch that one moment, that time in the ring where Badr flips a switch and turns into a man possessed. For my piece all the rest was extraneous. But what you just wrote here, this is inarguable. This is great. This is broader. This is better.
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what you were trying to say, and despite the comparisons, I still never thought you were actually calling Hari a “hero”. But the lows kind of have to be emphasized. It’s not like Hari is curing cancer, or answering questions about human nature. He’s just a prizefighter who entertains us when he’s in the ring. And he’s a criminal outside of it. If Badr ever spent the rest of his life in prison for a crime far worse, I could hardly think about what had been “lost” (a prestigious kickboxing career), and more about what had been gained (the social comfort of knowing a criminal is now where he should be). I don’t mean to be dramatic, and like you, I fully understand that Badr Hari without the civic outbursts outside of the ring wouldn’t be the Badr Hari knocking people out inside of it, but understanding that doesn’t mean I have to forgive it.
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by David Castillo on May 15, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonderful post
I simply cannot stand Hari. I will not deny his skills, his speed, or his power.
I will deny that he is worth the effort of It’s Showtime and K-1 to keep him on a leash.
I admire Semmy Schilt, both for his incredible dominance and his attitude. He is well aware that he is disliked, but continues to plug away with a sedate, yet immensely effective style. His quote regarding Overeem being the focus of the WGP poster is one of my favorites: " They can make me as small as they want. I’m still the biggest".
Just seeing Hari succeed irks me. He has never shown an ounce of remorse for what he’s done, which in my opinion is enough to get him banned from kickboxing for years, if not permanently. Melvin trying to calm the crowd down while Hari did nothing to help him made me a bigger fan of Melvin and a far lesser fan of Hari.
He’s exciting, powerful, and one of the most prodigious talents combat sports has ever seen.
But if I never see Badr Hari again, it’ll be too soon.
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by Johnny WF on May 14, 2011 3:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
agree with this^
someone call Peter Graham and order another dose of “Rolling Thunder!”
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
incidentally seen the new pics
it looks like hes been on the dr.dre diet
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
At the same time, you can’t deny that the points in this article can apply to many fighters. Many are guys who would probably be in jail if not for fighting. But the point that we need to consider, if we include the fighters’ morality as a token of their greatness, is if Badr Hari has improved in any way. For example, compare Badr Hari and Hesdy Gerges. Both men have criminal connections or, in Gerges’ case, outright criminal backgrounds. How are both men dealing with it? It seems like Gerges is trying to shake his past, although it’s very clear that it will follow him for the rest of his life to the point where he probably has no room to screw up even if he wanted to. Hari, on the other hand, has had a lot of screw ups but so far nothing bad enough to take him out for good. Now, if we want to be generous to Hari, I think we need to look at the Gerges incident. Was it surprising that Hari soccer kicked him? No. However, what I felt was surprising was Badr’s reaction after it happened. For the first time ever, he didn’t throw a temper tantrum, which is something. He seemed genuinely bothered, either because, as the conspiracy goes, he threw the fight or else because he knew he had no business doing that. Either way, he didn’t go on a rampage like he normally does. Is this is a sign of improvement? Not clear, but it is something else. As a result, I’m reluctant to believe that Hari can’t step up and develop some class—that is, of course, until the next incident.
Fun fact
“Bedlam” is actually a bastardization of “Bethlehem” as in “Bethlehem Royal Hospital” which was London’s most infamous insane asylum.
It’s interesting that you used the term “Bedlamite,” because it would seem to go to the heart of the real issue, which is that many of the best fighters and contact-sport athletes just aren’t wired the same way as the rest of us.
Ronnie Lott (former all-pro safety for the 49ers) used to say he’d be in prison if he wasn’t playing football, because he absolutely needed an outlet to express the violence in his nature, and he was going to get it — legal or not. Mike Tyson, who you mentioned, came from an incredibly brutal upbringing, and clearly (as demonstrated by his behavior) had tremendous difficulty containing his rage.
I’ve always been fascinated by guys who are just wired for violence. When I was younger, I felt the smallest twinge of that in myself, and was able to resolve it through martial arts and contact sports. I think those guys make the most compelling combat athletes because of the urgency with which they fight. They’re not just competitive. They’re not just working for a paycheck. They’re taking every advantage of the one opportunity they have to be violent, until the ref pulls them off.
I only get to see high-level kickboxing on streams (thanks for nothing Comcast) but I’ve loved what I’ve seen of Hari. I wouldn’t extol his behavior outside the ring, but nor would I let it get in the way of my enjoyment of him as a fighter. I’ve always thought it was a little bit unreasonable for those of us who are fans of violent sports to act scandalized when that violence inevitably extends outside the bounds of the ring/cage.
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by Derek Suboticki on May 15, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not excusing anything, but I am understanding of the fact that the violent nature that drives the sports I love also has a tendency to occasionally result in less socially acceptable forms of expression. If people commit crimes or break rules, I think they should be punished, but I’m not prepared to stand on a soapbox and judge them for the violent nature I pay to watch them express.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on May 15, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
check your listings- hdnet just came to philly! (comcast)
by Body Triangle on May 15, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, don't tease
I’m in DC/NoVA but I haven’t checked the channel lineup in awhile.
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by Dave Strummer on May 15, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate that gif.
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