Forrest Griffin Tweeting Incident Illustrates... Nothing
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The thing missing here, which I semi-ironically mentioned on twitter
is that he didn’t tell a joke. There is literally no humor in that statement. No wordplay, no punchline, no comedic twist or irony. That tweet can’t be called humor because there is literally nothing humorous about it.
Forrest made a statement that abuse has become the standard of sexual activity, which could be sadly insightful if expounded upon. But he had no intention of doing that. He said that abuse and violence should be expected for sexually active people, cheapening the trauma of those who suffered through it by calling it a regular experience. It’s pathetic, insulting, and he should face consequences for it. Whether it’s the UFC burying him a bit publicly, losing fans, losing sponsorships, or losing publishing deals, he should face consequences.
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I did compare it to oatmeal
I can think of a number of very tasteless jokes (some of which are funny, and some of which involve rape). I also don’t really think that was what he was thinking when he wrote that, but if you want to read that deeply into it, shrug.
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 9, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
It's not that it was tasteless. It wasn't a joke.
You can say “Thank god it was only boys involved in the PSU scandal. There won’t be any Paterno-ty tests now!” and that’s a joke. It’s not funny and in bad taste but uses wordplay and a pun. Those are two compenents of humor. I fall closer to the Carlin camp of you can make a joke about anything, but Forrest didn’t do anything like that. He did not tell a joke. He just said something awful.
It’s like hearing a 17 year old girl say something wrong, get corrected, and reply “oh just kidding!” No, you weren’t kidding. You’re just a fucking idiot.
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by pdl on Nov 9, 2011 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
I thought
his flippant tweet about child rape was significantly worse than his ensuing “joke”.
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by David Castillo on Nov 9, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Rape is an abomination
But so is gotcha mma journalism. And I don’t mean you, Cory. But this isn’t the first time certain MMA writers have stepped up to the podium to patronize the fighters they cover for being inappropriate. Why is it when Brett Rogers is accused of beating his wife (I’m taking no position w/ respect to the merit of those accusations), you never read any articles on MMA sites about how horrible domestic violence is, or how horrible it is for MMA when an fighter is accused of engaging in domestic violence? Instead, they report the facts of the matter (which is exactly what they should do). But when a fighter tweets a tasteless joke, some (and by some, I mean one) can’t wait to admonish him on their site? I know Forest is a popular guy, but enough with the knee jerk reactions.
ok a couple things
For starters, if you state a claim as fact, when it hasn’t been proven in a court of law, you can be held liable. As in monies liable. That is why you often get a “nothing but the facts” report, because if one doesn’t handle the editorializing properly (and lets face is, most bloggers and a ton of writers have never been to journalism school), you can find yourself with legal fees. That is why he’s an alleged wife-beater and not a wife-beater for starters.
That said, there were a TON of articles blasting Rogers. Numerous people were calling for White to fire him (which he did) and lambasted Rogers. I’m sorry that you missed it, but there was a large amount of vitriol aimed at Brett, definitely more so than this incident with Forrest. I’m not really gonna call out Brookhouse or anyone else who feels that way, because I can see part of that side, but really, this is just a stupid error in judgement by someone who might not have all his marbles anyway. Poor timing given the Penn St. incident and the UFC going more mainstream on FOX, but shrug. This is mostly a non-issue to me.
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 9, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
Gotcha MMA Journalism = Rape?
Holy hyperbole. Unless, of course, you don’t have a firm grasp on what an abomination is. Which seems likely. Also, knee-jerk reactions are unthinking, flailing and without appropriate context. So I’m not sure you know what that term means either.
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Nov 9, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
I used to think so too
but it’s actually quite awesome. Instead of a news feed consisting of banal shit my old high school friends are now up to (ala facebook), I’m getting articles from Carl Zimmer, Mo Constandi, and Jonah Lehrer in real time. Not that my high school friends aren’t good people: they’re just not as interesting as the latest news on toxoplasma gondii.
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by David Castillo on Nov 9, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn’t a singular incident. Even after scrubbing his twitter account there are still multiple rape jokes. Because it is a constant talking point with Griffin.
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by Jonathan Snowden on Nov 9, 2011 12:20 PM EST reply actions

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